In this special live episode of Recruiting is No Joke, recorded at RecFest 2025 in Nashville, Joel Lalgee brings you raw, unfiltered conversations from the front lines. We go beyond the hype to tackle the real challenges and opportunities facing recruiters and HR leaders today.

Joel chats with Nate Taylor from Basic Capital and Casey Timorason from Service Professionals, who reveal how a reimagined 401(k) has become a secret recruiting advantage—helping offers stand out, build loyalty, and transform how companies attract and retain talent.

Next, Jennifer Beckman from Long Building Technologies talks about the skilled trades shortage and how a